On Thursday morning on CNN, the anchor Chris Cuomo and the former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani discussed about the Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.
Most of the time they talked about Trump’s comments on Hillary Clinton and the Second Amendment.
Trump stated at a rally on Tuesday: “Hillary wants to abolish — essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I tell you what, that will be a horrible day, if Hillary gets to put her judges in. Right now we’re tied.”
When Cuomo stated that this was clearly a joke, Giuliani said that it wasn’t.
“You’re not saying he had serious intentions about Second Amendment people doing something bad?” asked the New Day host.
“Of course not! No more than Hilary Clinton had eight years ago when she said she was gonna stay in the [Democrat primary] race [against Barack Obama] because, remember, [Bobby] Kennedy was assassinated,” the mayor responded.
The two continued:
CUOMO: You know what she did after she said that? She apologized.
GIULIANI: Well because she was wrong.
CUOMO: Why didn’t he apologize?
GIULIANI: He wasn’t wrong!
CUOMO: How was he not wrong? To encourage people with the Second Amendment —
GIULIANI: No, no. —
CUOMO: … with guns that maybe you can do something?
GIULIANI: Chris. Chris Chris Chris. He didn’t encourage them to do that. He was saying don’t vote for her. It’s the Clinton spin machine —
CUOMO: No! I’m not part of the Clinton spin machine and you know that.
GIULIANI: But you accepted it!
“This is a political movement. This is a strong political movement, the Second Amendment,” Trump said to Fox News’ Sean Hannity Tuesday night. “And there can be no other interpretation … I mean, give me a break.”
The legislation that President Obama pushed for major gun control changes in 2013 was opposed by the NRA.
Giuliani noted that ISIS arose after the Obama administration quickly withdrew American forces from Iraq in 2011 and because of that he is on Trump’s side – that the president and Clinton are founders of the terrorist group.
“It is true in the sense that before Obama, ISIS was an almost unknown, small little organization,” Giuliani said. “He even called it the JV. Totally wrong.”
Last month, during CNN’ coverage of the Democratic convention, the journalist Carl Bernstein called Cuomo out, when he defended Clinton’s actions concerning her use of private, unsecured email server
Cuomo argued that FBI Director James Comey determined her actions were not illegal.
Bernstein replied forcefully: “Not illegal in terms of bringing a case before a grand jury or into a courtroom. Whether it’s illegal or not, he did not quite say. What she did is indefensible. It was reckless. She has lied about it.”
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